Loomis, Steven, IC3

Interior Communications Electrician
 
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Current Service Status
USN Veteran
Current/Last Rank
Petty Officer Third Class
Current/Last Primary NEC
IC-4718-IC Journeyman
Current/Last Rating/NEC Group
Interior Communications Electrician
Primary Unit
1970-1971, SN-9740, Vietnamese Naval Shipyard (VNNSY), Naval Advisory Group Vietnam
Previously Held NEC
SR-0000-Seaman Recruit
SN-0000-Seaman
SN-9740-Seaman - Other Technical and Allied Specialists
IC-0000-Interior Communications Electrician
Service Years
1969 - 1983
Official/Unofficial US Navy Certificates
Kiel Canal
Order of the Rock
Order of the Shellback
Panama Canal
Plank Owner
Voice Edition
IC-Interior Communications Electrician
One Hash Mark

 Official Badges 

Battle E US Navy Honorable Discharge US Naval Reserve Honorable Discharge


 Unofficial Badges 

Order of the Shellback Order of the Golden Dragon SERE Brown Water Navy (Vietnam)

Order of the Ditch (Panama Canal) Engineering/Survivability Excellence Award


 Military Associations and Other Affiliations
National Society Sons of the American RevolutionSons of Union Veterans of the Civil WarVeterans Associated With The Department of Veterans AffairsNavy Together We Served
  1950, National Society Sons of the American Revolution - Assoc. Page
  1950, Sons of Union Veterans of the Civil War - Assoc. Page
  1950, Grand Army of the Republic
  1974, Veterans Associated With The Department of Veterans Affairs
  1975, Veterans of Foreign Wars (VFW), Post 1530, Thomas Rooney Post (Member) (La Crosse, Wisconsin) - Chap. Page
  1975, American Legion, Post 52 (Member) (La Crosse, Wisconsin) - Chap. Page
  2004, Mobile Riverine Force Association
  2008, Navy Together We Served
  2013, Navy Club of the United States of America
  2017, United States LST Association
  2017, Veterans of the Vietnam War - Assoc. Page


 Additional Information
What are you doing now:

I retired on the last day of June, 2011, the month I turned 61,
and took my Arizona State pension, then Social Security at 62. 
I spent my post-navy life as a photographer and media manager.
The Navy gave me gypsy feet, and I've enjoyed them all my life.
As a result, traveling was not just a bucket list item for me. 
With the way things have gone, it was a good investment.

I'm a direct descendant, tenth generation, of Joseph Loomis.
The Loomis Family arrived in the New World on 17 July, 1638. 
We have defended America ever since. 

   
Other Comments:


"Service included boots-on-the-ground in Viet-Nam"
[ One year, 365 days, 24/7 -- 7 June 1970 to 7 June 1971 ]
U.S. Naval Advisory Group, Vietnamese Naval Shipyard, Saigon RVN.
I am also a Plank Owner and Shellback, USS Harlan County (LST-1196).
During my 4 years of active duty, 3 years were credited as foreign or sea service.

 
Technically, I was on Active Duty, USN, 3 years, 11 months and 16 days. However, I was in the Naval Reserve before that and after that, both Active Reserves and Inactive Reserves. So N/TWS has credited me from April 1969 through April 1983, 4 years active USN plus 4 years USNR and 6 years inactive Naval Reserves, and that is why my profile may occasionally show three hash marks. 1983 was my final Inactive Naval Reserve discharge date. Also, because I worked overseas, I never managed to take the 2nd Class Exam. So, actually I never wore more than one hash mark on my dress blues. And yes... there is a "V" on my Navy Achievement Medal even without having a Combat Action Ribbon because that's the way it was awarded. For more information click on the NAM w/V ribbon in my ribbon rack. 

I am glad, proud, to have been born an American.
I voluntarily joined the armed forces, and for that
matter I volunteered for duty in Viet-Nam. 

What I had hoped for was to not bring the violence,
the lack of value of a human life that I experienced
in Viet-Nam, back to America.  It is that simple.

 
During my civilian career I spent over ten years as a hospital/medical photographer, two years in Saudi Arabia with Lockheed, and then two and a half decades as the media specialist and manager for a 9,000+ student public school district in Phoenix, Arizona. I feel fortunate to have retired without ever having a single unemployment or welfare check. 

   

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  Lockheed Aircraft International A.G. Saudi Arabia
   
Date
Aug 16, 1977

Last Updated:
Feb 29, 2024
   
Comments

I took a two year contract in Saudi Arabia with Lockheed. I was hired through Lockheed Aircraft Service Co., in Ontario California. Lockheed Aircraft International, A.G., LAIAG, was incorporated in Geneva Switzerland. The A.G. is the Swiss equivalent of Inc. located at LAIAG, 7 Rue Cornavin, 1201 Geneva Switzerland.

My Navy background of serving incountry Viet-Nam had a lot to do with my being picked for this assignment. I was 27 and one of the youngest members of the team. Most likely the youngest of the Americans which only made up a quarter of the staff of the technical college we ran.

As most of you know, Lockheed was often considered a member of the "Company". You never knew who you might be talking to. As a photographer I got a couple of very interesting assignments with men in black suits.

Saudi was a place where you learned to make your own wine and beer. Come to think of it, it was bacon that really got us in trouble.

In Jeddah a butcher named Leb Joe used to make beef taste just like ham. Like corned beef, but different. It sold like hot cakes and fried up real tasty. Where there's a will there's a way. Not everything tastes just like chicken. And I consider that a good thing.

But then... they thought Hass El Blad was an Arab camera. LOL


Speaking of jokes... "it's a-comin"

Three strangers strike up a conversation in the passenger lounge in Bozeman, Montana, while waiting for their respective flights...

One is an American Indian passing through from Lame Deer, another is a Cowboy on his way to Billings for a livestock show, and the third passenger is a fundamentalist Arab student, newly arrived at Montana State University from the Middle East.

Their discussion drifts to their diverse cultures. Soon, the two Westerners learn that the Arab is a devout, radical Muslim and the conversation falls into an uneasy lull.

The cowboy leans back in his chair, crosses his boots on a magazine table, tips his big sweat-stained hat forward over his face, and lights a cigarette. The wind outside is blowing tumbleweeds around, and the old windsock is flapping; but still no plane comes.

Finally, the American Indian clears his throat and softly he speaks: 'At one time here... my people were many... but sadly, now we are few.'

The Muslim student raises an eyebrow and leans forward, 'Once my people were few,' he sneers, 'and now we are many. Why do you suppose that is?'

The cowboy removes his cigarette from his mouth and from the darkness beneath his Stetson says in a smooth drawl . . .

'I reckon that's 'cause we ain't played Cowboys and Muslims yet, but I do believe...it's a-comin.'


Religion, Vietnam and Saudi Arabia:

When I was in Viet-Nam I had a Chinese Counterpart. He was born in China and his parents brought him, as a child, south to escape the Communist and the hopeful safety of Viet-Nam. A plan which failed, in so much as safety (or escaping the wrath of communisum). While there, I was surrounded by a multitude of religions, but I was only concerned with my own. As a former alter boy I found my own belief to be absurd, illogical and hypercritical at best. I found that logic and the infinity of time as space more appealing. Life became more precious and death more final. I stepped away from a theroetical god and the taunt of an afterlife. I have never looked back.

Years later I was again surrounded by a foreign religion, this time Islam, and I was more than physically surrounded. It smothered the life out of everything. They, the Moslems of Saudi Arabia, were obsessed 24 hours a day with what I precieved to be a threat, their religous belief.

In book stores, maps and globes had to have Israel scratched or cut out. That way it didn't exist. Their hatred of the Jews was (is) an obsession, of which I can cite several military near disasters that only the State Department could verify. I knew then, as most of you know now, the next big war will be due to, and along religious lines. The joke for me, as an atheist is, no god exists, and that religions hatred and distrust are man-made for war's sake.

I'm not here to sell my "opinion", I simply pointed out in my first statement that fighting over whose religion is right is stupid at best. In the next decade I predict a million people will pay for this error.

OK, lighten up - -

1977, Jeddah, Saudi Arabia. I was on a two-year contract while we were building a technical school to teach the Saudi's Air Traffic Control. Most of the instructors were ex-Vietnam retired USAF aircraft traffic controllers. We waited several weeks for one of the team to show up, come to find out, he wouldn't fly. He came from the states via Malta on board a ship. I still think that story is funny.

   
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Man it was a journey
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