Ludwig, III, John Elmer, LCDR

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Last Rank
Lieutenant Commander
Last Primary NEC
131X-Unrestricted Line Officer - Pilot
Last Rating/NEC Group
Line Officer
Primary Unit
1973-1977, 131X, NTPS - Navy Test Pilot School
Lieutenant Commander
Lieutenant Commander

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Last Address
Bonita, CA

Date of Passing
Nov 22, 1980
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22 NOV 80
John E. Ludwig [P]
James W. Grouix [P]
   Hughes Helicopters

Mid-air collision with a T-28 just offshore of Seacliff Park in Encinitas during test flight of YAH-64. Photographer William L. Freeman was killed in the T-28 and pilot parachuted to safety.

Related News Article:

Bodies of Three Men Killed in Midair Collision Recovered
Encinitas (AP): The bodies of two pilots and a flight photographer have been recovered from the wreckage of a prototype military helicopter and an Army plane that collided in mid-air over the ocean this weekend.
The two test pilots taken from the Hughes Helicopters YAH-64 Sunday have been identified as John E. Ludwig, 34, of Bonita and James W. Grouix, 37, of Carlsbad.
The body of 56 year old William L. Freeman of San Clemente was also retrieved from the remnants of  the Army T-28 from which he was photographing the test flight when the two planes crashed Saturday about three-fourths off a mile of Seacliff Park.

Other Comments:
Unable to locate family members, burial information unknown at this time.
Fellow pilot said Jack was scheduled to be the next XO in HAL-5.

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 Unit Assignments/ Advancement Schools
Survival, Evasion, Resistance and Escape (SERE) CourseCommander Naval Forces Vietnam (COMNAVFORV)USN River Patrol Force - Task Force 116 (TF-116)HA(L)-3 Seawolves
HS-7NTPS - Navy Test Pilot School
  1969-1969, 131X, Survival, Evasion, Resistance and Escape (SERE) Course
  1969-1970, 131X, Commander Naval Forces Vietnam (COMNAVFORV)
  1969-1970, 131X, USN River Patrol Force - Task Force 116 (TF-116)
  1969-1970, 131X, HA(L)-3 Seawolves
  1971-1973, 131X, HS-7
  1973-1977, 131X, NTPS - Navy Test Pilot School
 Combat and Non-Combat Operations
  1969-1970 Vietnam War/Vietnam Winter-Spring 1970 Campaign
  1970-1970 Vietnam War/Sanctuary Counteroffensive Campaign (70)
  1970-1970 Vietnam War/Counteroffensive Phase VII Campaign (70-71)
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United States Naval Academy
  1964-1968, United States Naval Academy
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